I’m guessing the robots are designed to identify their targets by every available trait, physical and personal. That prevents body doubles, disguises, etc. from fooling them and is the best way to avoid killing innocents, but it also causes… Well… This. Not quite a “logic bomb” since he’s still functional, but it keeps him from getting a solid ID and thus forces a recalibration.
Given the robot was perfectly willing to terminate Kyoto on the previous page, it would seem not to place a priority on saving the lives of innocents. More like “do not harm innocents unless it is necessary to complete your mission”.
Other than that, though, yea, makes sense. If the homesteader confirms that she should still be considered to be Bunny even if her personality profile does not match the one on file, then he can come back, to finish the job.
Whereas, if he killed her, then reported back, only to be told “of course that was not her”, then he has lost the one witness who is likely to know where the “real” Bunny is.
I think Kyoto’s interference probably pushed her out of the “innocent” category, seeing as we consider aiding a criminal illegal and we don’t send killbots after anyone.
On a related note, it’d be interesting to follow the robot and see what “homestead” is. I’m betting it’s the human part of whatever law enforcement agency is chasing Bunny, and he’s programmed to go to them when dealing with program logic issues.
Yeah, more of a “logic flashbang.” And keep in mind we don’t know who sent the robots aside from the fact that they, like Bunny are apparently from another dimension. Or maybe time travelers. Possibly both. Either way we don’t know the motivations behind whoever programmed and/or hired the Cowboy.
I would think that a robot with its given capabilities would have a more capable AI, though i suppose retarding the AI of killing machines makes some sense (bunny possibly a rouge AI?)
Am I the only one who thinks this bit about the ‘recognition database’ is a lie? This ‘robot’ seems like he has enough of a personality to make his own judgement calls – I’m betting he spared her because he wanted to, not because of any ‘database’ nonsense.
I think he can make his own judgement calls, but only as a more advanced AI. His personality seems limited to what he’d need to understand human behavior and thus carry out his orders better. That being said, I can see him getting confused and arguing with “homestead” about his orders because this logic error hasn’t happened before.
I honestly am interested in what this Robot Cowboy is going to do back on the ‘homestead’ though, I’m guessing is some sort of central core networking system or something for him and other robot hit men. The fact he is confused by what bunny was willing to do is giving him second thoughts on what he was told about the target, maybe he was told that she is some sort of super evil terrorist yet that act right there puts what he was told into question. Still its is funny his recognition database got the heebie jeebies. XD
I definitely agree with this theory. Gunslinger here has a robust enough AI to defeat logic bombs, stands to reason that he’d be able to make judgment calls. I feel like he has a level of intelligence/individuality somewhere between Sonny (from I, Robot) and Cortana, so i don’t think he’s just a tin can with a fancy vocabulator.
Me thinks the real factor here is Bunny, she changed since the last encounter. She not the person she was at the start of this story anymore.
I still think he’ll come back to “finish the job” tho, hits are rarely so conditional, don’t think Bunny turning a new leaf is gonna change the orders…the real question is: Does Rusty here have enough individuality to question those orders?
I’m thinking that Mr.Robot here was willing to kill innocent people in order to apprehend what he understood to be a dangerous psychopath, but now he questions whether Bunny really committed the crimes she’s accused of.
Thinking that mysterious boyfriend of hers was probably the real culprit.
Perhaps the reason Bunny is on a hit list is because her personality aggravated the homesteader? If her it is changing, for the better, the robot may want to see if the contract is still required.
He is suddenly not certain that this is the bunny he was looking for?
I agree that he doubts that the contract is still valid/required. Or he genuinely believes he may have the wrong person (wrong reality) and always tries to be at least 95% sure he does not kill the wrong target (100% is impossible).
There is a time to run, and a time to screw with robots minds through courage. The question is – did Bunny plan this? Or does she care about Kyto enough to die for her? Or did she have another plan? Unlikely, but you never know with her…
To me the interesting thing here is that Chrome Cowboy is now questioning the validity of his information.
This makes him a cut above HAL, who went insane because he was lied to.
It would be ironic indeed if BB’s sense of honor actually turned CC against whoever put out the contract on BB.
I think you’re ascribing too many personality traits to the robot, when it’s really very straightforward. Give the robot a directive or two, like “kill the Hare,” and “remove any obstacles that prevent you from killing the Hare,” fill its memory with everything it needs to know to identify the target, point it in the last known direction of its target, and turn it loose. It follows the trail of dead guys and general mayhem until it either hits an obstacle or finds its target. In the most recent case, the obstacle was Kyoto hitting it with a stick, so it attempts to remove the obstacle, first by asking her to stop obstructing its program, and then by attempting to kill her. It probably would have been as likely to blow away the terracotta monk and the various monsters if they’d presented any sort of immediate threat to Bunny’s life (because if one of those creatures killed her, the robot wouldn’t be able to complete its program). With Bunny no longer behaving in a way that is compatible with what the robot knows about the Hare, it simply fails to identify Bunny as a target any longer, and has to head back for a database update.
If you remember RoboCop, it’s a similar situation to Murphy’s fourth directive; while he’s programmed to “protect the innocent,” “serve the public trust,” and “uphold the law,” he’s also programmed so that he cannot recognize OCP employees as criminals, so that when he attempts to arrest one, he shuts down due to cognitive dissonance.
Actually, HAL went insane not because he was lied to, but because he was simultaneously ordered TO keep the nature of the mission (and all information related to that) secret while reporting information received during the mission accurately without distortion.
The reason HAL starts killing everyone is because part of the “keep the nature of the mission secret” orders also mandate protecting the mission at all costs up to and including completing the mission alone.
There’s a very good reason that order was there. Just after the scene where the Monolith is found on the moon, several missions to Jupiter investigating the apparent destination of a radio signal sent by the Monolith are sabotaged and destroyed by unknown person(s) or group(s).
Still, you are correct that Chrome Cowboy’s algorithms are a cut above HAL in that CC doesn’t immediately shoot Bunny just to make sure.
His finger’s still on the trigger, he might want to shoot still. Although that safety measure might not be required for robots that don’t slip, he might be “heading back to homestead” by wireless connection and not physically leaving.
What? That’s a bit of a surprise there. Or is that the perfect logic bomb to counter him?
I’m guessing the robots are designed to identify their targets by every available trait, physical and personal. That prevents body doubles, disguises, etc. from fooling them and is the best way to avoid killing innocents, but it also causes… Well… This. Not quite a “logic bomb” since he’s still functional, but it keeps him from getting a solid ID and thus forces a recalibration.
Given the robot was perfectly willing to terminate Kyoto on the previous page, it would seem not to place a priority on saving the lives of innocents. More like “do not harm innocents unless it is necessary to complete your mission”.
Other than that, though, yea, makes sense. If the homesteader confirms that she should still be considered to be Bunny even if her personality profile does not match the one on file, then he can come back, to finish the job.
Whereas, if he killed her, then reported back, only to be told “of course that was not her”, then he has lost the one witness who is likely to know where the “real” Bunny is.
I think Kyoto’s interference probably pushed her out of the “innocent” category, seeing as we consider aiding a criminal illegal and we don’t send killbots after anyone.
On a related note, it’d be interesting to follow the robot and see what “homestead” is. I’m betting it’s the human part of whatever law enforcement agency is chasing Bunny, and he’s programmed to go to them when dealing with program logic issues.
Yeah, more of a “logic flashbang.” And keep in mind we don’t know who sent the robots aside from the fact that they, like Bunny are apparently from another dimension. Or maybe time travelers. Possibly both. Either way we don’t know the motivations behind whoever programmed and/or hired the Cowboy.
well, that was climatic
Number of successful psych-outs by Bunny: +1
Not sure it’s a psych-out… I think she fully intended to die.
I think you should have your personality recognition database checked.
(My theory: Bunny’s faking him out as a tactical gambit, and he’s faking out being faked out as a counter-gambit)
A samurai should always be ready to die, if honor requires it.
Which is exactly why Bunny’s actions were so shocking.
I would think that a robot with its given capabilities would have a more capable AI, though i suppose retarding the AI of killing machines makes some sense (bunny possibly a rouge AI?)
Am I the only one who thinks this bit about the ‘recognition database’ is a lie? This ‘robot’ seems like he has enough of a personality to make his own judgement calls – I’m betting he spared her because he wanted to, not because of any ‘database’ nonsense.
That would be interesting.
I think he can make his own judgement calls, but only as a more advanced AI. His personality seems limited to what he’d need to understand human behavior and thus carry out his orders better. That being said, I can see him getting confused and arguing with “homestead” about his orders because this logic error hasn’t happened before.
I honestly am interested in what this Robot Cowboy is going to do back on the ‘homestead’ though, I’m guessing is some sort of central core networking system or something for him and other robot hit men. The fact he is confused by what bunny was willing to do is giving him second thoughts on what he was told about the target, maybe he was told that she is some sort of super evil terrorist yet that act right there puts what he was told into question. Still its is funny his recognition database got the heebie jeebies. XD
I definitely agree with this theory. Gunslinger here has a robust enough AI to defeat logic bombs, stands to reason that he’d be able to make judgment calls. I feel like he has a level of intelligence/individuality somewhere between Sonny (from I, Robot) and Cortana, so i don’t think he’s just a tin can with a fancy vocabulator.
Me thinks the real factor here is Bunny, she changed since the last encounter. She not the person she was at the start of this story anymore.
I still think he’ll come back to “finish the job” tho, hits are rarely so conditional, don’t think Bunny turning a new leaf is gonna change the orders…the real question is: Does Rusty here have enough individuality to question those orders?
I’m thinking that Mr.Robot here was willing to kill innocent people in order to apprehend what he understood to be a dangerous psychopath, but now he questions whether Bunny really committed the crimes she’s accused of.
Thinking that mysterious boyfriend of hers was probably the real culprit.
O.o that was….unexpected.
Perhaps the reason Bunny is on a hit list is because her personality aggravated the homesteader? If her it is changing, for the better, the robot may want to see if the contract is still required.
Yay! Her own loyalty saved the day! That’s my bunny! ^_^
Pro.
Could still be that they’re mistaking her for the Hare.
Future party member, this guy.
Well…, that was somewhat unexpected.
I do like how he took her reply about shooting her as a morality test.
Perhaps the trick is that there is no trick.
He is suddenly not certain that this is the bunny he was looking for?
I agree that he doubts that the contract is still valid/required. Or he genuinely believes he may have the wrong person (wrong reality) and always tries to be at least 95% sure he does not kill the wrong target (100% is impossible).
There is a time to run, and a time to screw with robots minds through courage. The question is – did Bunny plan this? Or does she care about Kyto enough to die for her? Or did she have another plan? Unlikely, but you never know with her…
To me the interesting thing here is that Chrome Cowboy is now questioning the validity of his information.
This makes him a cut above HAL, who went insane because he was lied to.
It would be ironic indeed if BB’s sense of honor actually turned CC against whoever put out the contract on BB.
I think you’re ascribing too many personality traits to the robot, when it’s really very straightforward. Give the robot a directive or two, like “kill the Hare,” and “remove any obstacles that prevent you from killing the Hare,” fill its memory with everything it needs to know to identify the target, point it in the last known direction of its target, and turn it loose. It follows the trail of dead guys and general mayhem until it either hits an obstacle or finds its target. In the most recent case, the obstacle was Kyoto hitting it with a stick, so it attempts to remove the obstacle, first by asking her to stop obstructing its program, and then by attempting to kill her. It probably would have been as likely to blow away the terracotta monk and the various monsters if they’d presented any sort of immediate threat to Bunny’s life (because if one of those creatures killed her, the robot wouldn’t be able to complete its program). With Bunny no longer behaving in a way that is compatible with what the robot knows about the Hare, it simply fails to identify Bunny as a target any longer, and has to head back for a database update.
If you remember RoboCop, it’s a similar situation to Murphy’s fourth directive; while he’s programmed to “protect the innocent,” “serve the public trust,” and “uphold the law,” he’s also programmed so that he cannot recognize OCP employees as criminals, so that when he attempts to arrest one, he shuts down due to cognitive dissonance.
Actually, HAL went insane not because he was lied to, but because he was simultaneously ordered TO keep the nature of the mission (and all information related to that) secret while reporting information received during the mission accurately without distortion.
The reason HAL starts killing everyone is because part of the “keep the nature of the mission secret” orders also mandate protecting the mission at all costs up to and including completing the mission alone.
There’s a very good reason that order was there. Just after the scene where the Monolith is found on the moon, several missions to Jupiter investigating the apparent destination of a radio signal sent by the Monolith are sabotaged and destroyed by unknown person(s) or group(s).
Still, you are correct that Chrome Cowboy’s algorithms are a cut above HAL in that CC doesn’t immediately shoot Bunny just to make sure.
Nope. Pretty sure the reason I went insane was the first 5 minutes of the movie.
Did she know that would happen? Or was it an honest effort to protect Kyoto and she got lucky?
Either way, well done.
Security protocol one. This is not the Bunny you are looking for.
His finger’s still on the trigger, he might want to shoot still. Although that safety measure might not be required for robots that don’t slip, he might be “heading back to homestead” by wireless connection and not physically leaving.
Yep shore looks like he needs A reboot !
could simplely be that he can’t plain kill someone not attacking him and/or escapeing.
I’m legit surprised. I expected a trick, too.